Paignton
Neighbourhood Forum

Series

Promenade

Title

Meetings

Date

Tuesday 15 December 2020

Description

Seafront defence task and finish group meeting. (Report 1).

The meeting started promptly at 16.00 and seemed to be well attended by several councillors. I couldn’t tell how many as I couldn’t see all of them on screen. However I did spot Freda.

This was the second meeting of this committee.

I had gone through all of the information that appeared on the PNF website and had a few questions that I would have liked answers to but there was no open forum or opportunity to ask them.

From what I gathered, it would seem that the building of the wall was a done deal, it was just the details that are to be decided on. The first half hour of this one hour meeting was given over to much discussion about publicising the wall. There were questions about whether PNF had put anything on their website.

Councillor Dave Thomas said he had tried to google PNF but could only find the PNP.

One of the council employees eventually found the PNF website. There was a very valid suggestion that a prominent link from PNP to PNF would be a good idea.

Once the PNF site was found the sites Sea Wall information was shared. There was much praise for the comprehensive way in which the information was shown and in particular for PNF’s webmaster.

One suggestion for a public display was to put a detailed display on the fencing that is around the Midas temporary storage site. Kevin Mowat said that the council had reserved the right to be able to do something like that. Kate Spencer, one of K.M.’s staff was keen to progress publication of the wall in a prominent public position where it would be easily seen by the general public as they were walking at the sea front during the Christmas period.

During the second half of the meeting it soon became apparent that the wall would be made of precast concrete which is probably very sensible as it would be stronger than a brick or natural stone construction. The discussion then centred around sculptured decorations. There was a strong general consensus that local artists should be used and suggestions included, possibly, students from Paignton Tech College.

I got the distinct impression that generally, very few people in Paignton were aware of the proposal to build the wall. As I have said it seems that the building of it seems a done deal but there are several questions to be answered.

Drainage is a major question. When the sea overtops the wall where will that water go? Presumably this would be happening in conjunction with a storm and therefore heavy and probably prolonged rain. This brings the probability of excess water flowing down from higher ground that would normally drain out to sea but with a sea wall this would not be possible. We don’t want to prevent one form of flooding only to create another one.

I’m sure this has been thought about but this meeting didn’t mention it.

There is one unconnected but positive side effect that building a sea wall would bring. It would stop/make it more difficult for unauthorised vehicles and caravans to invade Paignton green.

The meeting wound up at 16.50. Next meeting, 11th January with a preliminary planning application in February. Apparently there is some urgency regarding the planning application in order that a funding deadline isn’t missed. There is an initial expectation that work on construction could possibly start around August 2021.

Lionel Uden.

Seafront defence task and finish group meeting. (Report 1) - December 15 2020, Tuesday

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Seafront defence task and finish group meeting. (Report 1).

The meeting started promptly at 16.00 and seemed to be well attended by several councillors. I couldn’t tell how many as I couldn’t see all of them on screen. However I did spot Freda.

This was the second meeting of this committee.

I had gone through all of the information that appeared on the PNF website and had a few questions that I would have liked answers to but there was no open forum or opportunity to ask them.

From what I gathered, it would seem that the building of the wall was a done deal, it was just the details that are to be decided on. The first half hour of this one hour meeting was given over to much discussion about publicising the wall. There were questions about whether PNF had put anything on their website.

Councillor Dave Thomas said he had tried to google PNF but could only find the PNP.

One of the council employees eventually found the PNF website. There was a very valid suggestion that a prominent link from PNP to PNF would be a good idea.

Once the PNF site was found the sites Sea Wall information was shared. There was much praise for the comprehensive way in which the information was shown and in particular for PNF’s webmaster.

One suggestion for a public display was to put a detailed display on the fencing that is around the Midas temporary storage site. Kevin Mowat said that the council had reserved the right to be able to do something like that. Kate Spencer, one of K.M.’s staff was keen to progress publication of the wall in a prominent public position where it would be easily seen by the general public as they were walking at the sea front during the Christmas period.

During the second half of the meeting it soon became apparent that the wall would be made of precast concrete which is probably very sensible as it would be stronger than a brick or natural stone construction. The discussion then centred around sculptured decorations. There was a strong general consensus that local artists should be used and suggestions included, possibly, students from Paignton Tech College.

I got the distinct impression that generally, very few people in Paignton were aware of the proposal to build the wall. As I have said it seems that the building of it seems a done deal but there are several questions to be answered.

Drainage is a major question. When the sea overtops the wall where will that water go? Presumably this would be happening in conjunction with a storm and therefore heavy and probably prolonged rain. This brings the probability of excess water flowing down from higher ground that would normally drain out to sea but with a sea wall this would not be possible. We don’t want to prevent one form of flooding only to create another one.

I’m sure this has been thought about but this meeting didn’t mention it.

There is one unconnected but positive side effect that building a sea wall would bring. It would stop/make it more difficult for unauthorised vehicles and caravans to invade Paignton green.

The meeting wound up at 16.50. Next meeting, 11th January with a preliminary planning application in February. Apparently there is some urgency regarding the planning application in order that a funding deadline isn’t missed. There is an initial expectation that work on construction could possibly start around August 2021.

Lionel Uden.

Seafront defence task and finish group meeting. (Report 2) - December 15 2020, Tuesday

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Seafront defence task and finish group meeting. (Report 2).

Mostly Councillors in attendance.

Kevin Mowat (Director of Place) is anxious to involve the Chambers and is prepared to give them the presentation he's already made to the Neighbourhood Forum and the Town Partnership.  Sally Cope (Paignton chair) had been invited to this meeting, but Kevin was advised by a person present that there was a local Chambers meeting today at 4.00, to she would have been at that.

Kate Spencer discussing about further community involvement and will have something on the website by the end of the week (I don't actually know to which website she was referring! - I'm presuming a Council one)

Cllr Dave Thomas said he'd not received a notification from the Forum, as is their wont when something needs attention, however,  David Edmondson found the site and the information on the Flood Plan was on there and shared his screen.

Kevin Mowat remarked on what a wonderful job had been done, and said he must congratulate Catherine and her team

The Council is still working on the artwork, and it would be better if the planning application is deferred until late February, to make sure that more people know about the proposals.

Kevin Mowat was very concerned that the artist was from London and not a local artist, and is to look into why he wasn't consulted on this (he was quite concerned).

There was much discussion on how to get the information to enough people - notices along the seafront, utilisation of the hoarding around the hotel construction sites - (Midas does not need the second accommodation block cabin - they've sorted spacing adequately), Next Door (social media), Beach Hut - although the January deadline has been missed, and February could be too late, Vue Cinema, CAB, Libraries.   Leaflets were also suggested by Cllr Celia Brown.  Kevin Mowat said that Kate is capturing these ideas, although she thought it unlikely that she'd be able to get anything up before Christmas to capture the seafront walkers over that period.

Torbay Times - although many people said they don't receive one (myself included, although I didn't say so!)

Cllr Anne Brooks suggested that during construction perhaps some uplighting could be positioned on the land side of the wall to make a feature of the artwork.

More talk of the artwork and guidance is needed as to just what illustrates our Geopark Status - Jurrasic Coast lends itself to fossils, but what of Geopark?  Someone said there's special sea grasses offshore where sea horses live, and that could be a possibility - but it seems that guidance is needed.  There are also dolphins offshore.

Back to the art work and the concern that it should involve local artists - the college or schools and then it could be signed and attributed.  Kevin felt that even he was playing catch up with that part of the topic as the TDA dealt with it, but it was strongly felt that the Culture Board should have chosen a local artist.

I didn't speak, but I put in the chat the Lee Pickering provided the artwork for the Paignton Chamber, and is a brilliant local artist.

Cllr Mike Morey said that we must be sure that we don't go over the timeline for the availability of the money from the Environment Agency.

Conclusion - there needs to be more local consultation, and there is concern that not enough people know about the project - hence the deferral of the planning application to mid to late February, with the work still proposed to commence late August.

Kevin Mowat said that he hasn't yet been able to discuss with Dave Stewart the possibility of repositioning the sea wall, as he's still not back in action.

No discussion took place on positioning of gaps in the walls, although during the discussion it was mentioned that the gaps need to be near the kiosks and discussion needs to take place with the kiosk holders.

In short seemingly not a lot of progress, but certainly concern that local opinions should be widely sought.

Freda Bamford Dwane

Zoom meeting Flood Scheme Task & Finish Group - January 11 2021, Monday

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Zoom meeting Flood Scheme Task & Finish Group

23 people present: led by Kevin Mowat (KM), Director of Place.

Dave Stewart (DS) was back from sick leave to give some background information.

- He worked in the early stages with the EU to secure the grant for the project.

- He's now in the process of applying for further funding.

- Addressing the concern about the engagement of a London artist for the artwork on the wall rather than using local talent, DS explained discussion took place with Tom Littlewood of Ginkgo Projects, and that the work went out to tender and there were 41 applicants countrywide and from a shortlist of 5; Lydia Johnson was appointed in late June.

- KM asked if anything was finalised - not yet as she'd been told to hold back until ideas come from this group. She will be asked to be present at the next meeting.

- There is to be a meeting on 18th January with KM, Colin Hurst - Town Partnership (who expressed disappointment at being involved at such a late stage)- and those businesses directly affected by the positioning of the wall and these discussions to be brought back to the Task & Finish Group for it's next meeting.

Cllr Chris Lewis (CL) (who initiated this group) was disappointed that we had not been involved in choosing the artist and asked that lessons should be learned from this situation.

KM reassured that nothing will go through until there is more agreement - he has not yet heard from several of the seafront businesses - hopefully to be resolved by the 18th January meeting.

Cllr CL said that the kiosk operators are leaseholders - has the council contacted kiosk holders?

Nicolle Amil (NA) said that she was disappointed that we have been involved at such a late stage, and should have been from the beginning, not when it was a virtual fait accompli.

KM said that NA can contact the artist directly, as art is subjective. Perhaps an advocate from Paignton to liaise with Lydia and Cllr Jane Barnby accepted that role. She expressed reservations of being able to communicate with Lydia, and KM agreed that art is subjective, but we must insist that the meaning of the artwork must be obvious and not need interpretive plaques (which was the case on Beacon Quay). We are looking at perhaps 4 designs that can be repeated along the length of the wall.

Cllr Dave Thomas (DT) asked how much money from the recently acquired Torbay Council Future High Streets Funding of £13.36 million would need to be directed to providing the street furniture, plantings and other aesthetic work which is not covered by the Environment Agency money, and KM advised that he was working with the cabinet in an effort to downsize the contribution as the Bid was a lower figure than the application for £19 million.

Jo Penhaligan (hope I've spelt that correctly) of Torbay Council said that the information has been included in the next Beach Hut and free Torbay Weekly, but the hoarding information discussed at the last meeting was not yet in place.

Cllr Hill asked if KM knew how the glass barriers installed at Sidmouth had stood up to the waves, and was advised that, yes they had stood up to the waves, but sadly had not proved to be vandal proof.

Next Meeting end of the month where the positioning of flood gates will be discussed, together with the up and over access - steps and ramps. KM said please let him know anything else that anyone wants to be discussed and it can be put on an Agenda.

Freda Bamford Dwane

Note: Artist's name is Lydia Johnson from the Citizens Design Bureau

Meeting of the Paignton Sea Wall group - 29 March 2021, Monday

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Meeting of the Paignton Sea Wall group. Monday 29th March 2021.

Report by Lionel Uden.

The Zoom meeting started promptly at 16.00 and was chaired by Dave Edmundson, Torbay Council Assistant Director of Planning, Housing and Climate Change.

Kevin Mowat, who has the remit for the sea wall was on leave.

We heard from Tim Jones, Head of Engineering for TDA.

He related that discussion regarding sea protection for Paignton was first raised about ten years ago. He stated that much of the sea front and lower town of Paignton was on reclaimed land.

The level of some parts of Paignton were 2.3 metres A.o.D. (above ordnance datum) above sea level to you and me, whereas some of the highest tides were 2.8 metres AoD so even today we have a flood risk for many properties, right up to the top of Torbay Road, as far as the bus station and the surrounding roads and properties.

In those years there were nine considerations. Here are the main details of four of them.

1. Do nothing and there will be flooding events, roughly one in every ten years. This was rejected.

2. Enhancing the primary sea defence. This would require a sea wall with a height of 2.8 to 3.2 metres. Also this wall would require some level of secondary protection.

3. Building along the line suggested in the council’s recently published plans. In this scheme the height of the wall could be restricted to 1.1 metres at the Paignton end and 1.8 metres at the Preston end. The added advantage of building along this line, the seaward edge of the green, there would be some level of secondary protection as much of the force of the waves would be expended before hitting the wall. Further, at the Preston end, much of the wall would be hidden by running between the beach huts. Many of the storms that the the wall is designed to protect, the lower areas of the town are expected to be accompanied with high rainfall and this needs consideration otherwise a different cause of flooding could occur. The soil of the green is virtually impermeable, water hardly drains through it. Tim Jones explained that there are huge tanks beneath the green designed to hold the excess water that would run down from higher ground.

4. Some sort of offshore structure was considered but offshore Torbay is a marine protected area, sea grass, sea horses, etc. So that is a ‘no go.’

The other schemes were not mentioned or at least I didn’t hear them. I assume they were non starters.

The new plans/drawings by Richard Kaskow that appeared today were discussed but to build a wall of sufficient height on the line of the existing sea wall (the seaward side of the prom road) would mean a considerably higher wall and it would be subject to the full force of the oncoming waves.

There were other considerations as well but I couldn’t write quickly enough to record them all. Suffice to say that they were not considered viable.

Much of the remaining time was spent regarding the designs to be depicted in relief on the pre-cast sections and Lydia Johnson, who has been co-ordinating suggestions gave us some idea of what was possible. These panels, precast concrete sections, would be about 2 metres long and it is envisioned that there would be 6 different designs repeating themselves along the length of the wall. She has had several suggestions from local groups, e.g. Churston School, Torbay Youth Trust and Paignton Community College amongst others. Nothing has yet been decided. She has had 765 views of the designs. Design consultation closes, 9th April.

Tim Jones talked about what methods might be used to block off the necessary openings. Hinged gates were his preferred method but openings would be kept to the minimum considered necessary. There would be some ‘up and over’ places in addition to openings.

There was much criticism regarding the lack of publicity and public consultation. We heard from Jo Penhaligan of Torbay council that there had been publicity on the council website, in the Beach Hut magazine, an 8 page spread in the council’s news sheet.

The web page had been viewed 730 times. 4 articles had appeared in the local press, Devon Live, Torbay Weekly and the local radio as well as 40 posters showing the sea wall plans on sites along the sea front. I can vouch for the posters, I have seen them.

Dave Edmondson made assurances that the community’s views would be listened to and noted in particular questions regarding graffiti. Lydia Johnson expressed the view that as the panels would have relief designs cast into them they would be less attractive to graffiti artists.

The planning application, originally due March/April will now be delayed until consultation is completed.

The meeting closed at 18.00.

The next meeting is scheduled for Monday 26th April at 16.00

 

Flood Task & Finish Group - 6 April 2021, Tuesday

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Flood Task & Finish Group.

Notes from the meeting held 29th March 2021 4.00 - 6.00 p.m. via Zoom

Apologies: Simon de Vay - detained in London

Chaired by David Edmonson in the absence of Kevin Mowat who was on leave.

27 persons present.

1) Update by Jo Penhaligan, committee engagement officer, who explained she'd been in position since January and presented the information that had gone out:

A web page on Torbay Council Website

An article in Preston Beach Hut

An article in Council's 8 page spread delivered to 60,000 homes across the bay.

Press release distributed to all key media, Councillors, Community Partnerships, Neighbourhood Forums and other key contacts.

40 posters put up across 15 sites across Paignton and Preston - between Broadsands to Palace Avenue mentioned.

2 social media posts on Council's site.

2 articles in One Torbay eNewsletter (over 7,500 subscribers)

730 hits on the website information with over 500 of them being unique visitors with an average of 5 and a half minutes per view. (This is from a population of approx. 75,000).

A video went out in February on the Council's Social Media sites, along with questionaires.

Several people present, particularly Trevor Cornish of Paignton Club who walks daily from Preston to the Paignton Club, said that they had not seen the posters displayed (nor had the writer) although Lionel Uden said that he had seen them. Someone else said that the only one seen on the sea front was one by the Vue Cinema - very small and behind opaque glass.

Jo was asked about the original thought of displaying posters on the Midas Hoardings around the two new hotels being constructed on the sea front, but she explained that things became a little complicated there, so it hadn't happened.

Freda Bamford Dwane asked if she might be missing a trick here, as she'd received from Catherine Fritz, Chair of the Neighbourhood Forum, some amazing projections of the regeneration of the promenade area, with alternative suggestions of wall locations and wondered where this fitted into the discussion - but was advised that this item was to be covered by Cllr Dave Thomas.

Cllr Dave Thomas said that some people were in receipt of diagrams to share alternative schemes produced by the Community Partnership, which were an opportunity for conversation.

Agenda Item 2) Tim Jones head of Engineering at TDA explained that they had been looking at the scheme for 10 years or more (writer's note: please bear in mind that this only became public knowledge and open to discussion in December 2020 thanks to Cllr Chris Lewis).

Tim Jones said that he will circulate an A4 summary with the thought processes. It is normal for the TDA to put the business case to the Council. However, you will recall from previous meetings that even Kevin Mowat of Torbay Council, was not aware of the detail of the scheme until very recently.

Tim explained that tanks had been installed under the green to collect surface water and it must be born in mind that the land on the green is virtually impermeable - therefore, if any barrier were to be constructed on the town side of the green, as has been suggested, the danger would be of creating a lagoon, with all the health and safety implication that that would bring.

The idea of a breakwater out at sea had been suggested but we are in area of marine conservation, with sea grasses, sea horses and submerged caves, so this was discounted. The detailed information will be shared, Tim was adamant that nothing will be submitted to Planning until agreement is reached.

Lorraine ? raised a question about sea flood water coming up from beneath properties during tidal flooding, and Freda Bamford Dwane explained that when Kernou Road (where she lives) experienced flooding from the worst incident in October 2004 there was evidence of the water level at a minimum of 10 inches on their patio with no water inside the property (thanks to effective double glazed doors and patio doors), and the water did not come up though their wooden floors.

Colin Hurst said that there was a huge area not clear as to how the plan was agreed on, and there was a major concern over graffiti (this will be addressed in Lydia Johnson's presentation later in the meeting).

Cllr Chris Lewis, as a councillor for Preston, was very concerned that there was no wall proposed for Marine Parade. He was particularly concerned for the kiosk at the entrance to Marine Parade. This is something that can go for further discussion.

Mike Morey said, before having to leave the meeting to attend another, that discussion must not stop here, but must continue. We can't please everyone, but we need a majority before it's taken to planning in two months.

Katie ? said that technical reports need to be in the public domain, and would appreciate the Council publishing them all. Environment Agency funding was agreed in 2019, but still had only just come before the public. There were 9 different schemes discussed, and only 5 have been mentioned, so we will be glad to see the other 4.

Opening/gates - how will these function? manual/electonic? The Beaches Team led by Simon Pinder will be responsible for closing these. The majority will be hinged gates with pairs being present at road openings. Further consultation needs to take place on the up and over points of access.

3) Details from Cllr Christine Carter/Tom Littlewood/Lydia Johnson. Cllr Carter has been in touch with Churston Grammar School and Paignton College and submitted art content ideas to Lydia Johnson, who has published on the Council website suggestions of illustrations for the proposed wall. The final ideas will be in panels produced in tiles (you need to see the illustration of these, as I find it difficult to explain - they are published on the Council Website), and the challenge will be between making the relief sufficient to be a graffiti deterrent, and not too deep to prevent ability of cleaning off any graffiti managing to challenge that deterrent. The artwork will only go so far to deter graffiti and a cleaning management will have to be in place. There are many artworks of this type in place, e.g. Gloucester. So far the suggestions are beach huts, lobster pots, bathing machines, sailing boats and the pier. Once agreed this will be arranged at intervals along the length of the wall.

Comments are welcomed on the Council website.

Lydia explained that they were speaking with the concrete fabricators about the colour of the wall, and how to introduce this.

Cllr Lewis said that we have seen in the past there has been lack of maintenance and the council will have to put a sum aside for this, and should be a planning condition. EA funding is for the capital element and does not include ongoing maintenance and repair. If the EA actually owned the wall they would get funding for maintenance from central Government. It is thought that Section 106 monies could be channelled towards this.

The next meeting was agreed for 4.00 p.m. 26th April.

Notes of meeting with Environment Agency - July 2 2021, Friday

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Follow up of meeting with Environment Agency (EA) on Friday 2ndJuly 2021 to discuss Paignton's sea defences

TDA – Tim Jones

Torbay Councillors – David Thomas, Chris and Barbara Lewis

PTCP - Louise Gilson, Colin Hurst, Richard Kaskow, Stephen and Jane Brooksbank

PNF – Catherine Fritz, Chris Harvey

 

'Once the paranoia over the sea wall has calmed down, we will be able to get on with it'.

Tim Jones TDA.

'If this is the Council's view of the serious concerns being expressed by the community over the impact of the sea wall, then we are long way off working together to find a satisfactory solution'. Richard Kaskow PTCP

Set back sea wall

It is accepted that a 1.1m high set back wall will provide a technical solution to holding back the sea. It can be increased in height to 1.4m post 2035 should sea levels continue to rise.

It is apparent that no thought had been given to enhancing its appearance, other than sticking glazed tiles with an abstract design on it. This design work has already been completed, despite showing patterned concrete in their posters and clad in limestone stone in the business case to EA. The EA suggested using the local red sandstone (brecccia) to clad the precast units. Richard Kaskow mentioned Torbay's UNESCO status Geopark

Catherine Fritz stated that the Council's proposal would fail as it stands – The new NPPF guidelines clearly state, 'Local communities will be at the heart of plans to make sure that new developments in their area are beautiful and well-designed'.

Action - Torbay Council to produce sketch ideas to incorporate landscaping and seating as part of comprehensive design for whole promenade sutiable for community engagement.

As of January 2022... nothing from Torbay Council

Existing sea wall

No one knew exactly how the existing sea wall is constructed. The EA and TDA expressed concern over its suitability to sustain additional loading, being built on sand etc. Richard Kaskow said it had lasted over 150 years will no major cracking or subsidence. There is already a 1.125m stone wall on top of the section adjacent to the cinema. Tim Jones mentioned crawling under the concrete slab to the lower beachside promenade to find sand. Trial holes on the Geoplay Park found red sand/mud/grit during investigations for surface water drainage. PTCP to find report.

Action – Torbay Council to carry out full investigation of construction of existing Victorian sea wall from Eastern Esplanade road through to the sheet piling on the beach.

Torbay Council to produce comprehensive plan of repairs and improvements needed to bring existing sea wall, lower prom and Eastern Esplanade up to scratch, to include making all new and existing ramps and step access points DDA complaint along with budget costings, all suitable for community engagement.

As of January 2022... nothing from Torbay Council

Existing services

A modest flood barrier on The Green side of the footpath was omitted by a Torbay Council officer from the final Geoplay Park scheme because he said we could not build over the underground services! Torbay Council's business case to the EA flags this up as a possible problem. So, has the area for the sea wall been fully surveyed now given a previously planned start in October this year?

Action – TC to undertake survey or provide survey details for community to examine as this may affect the route of a set back wall.

As of January 2022... nothing from Torbay Council

Wave wall idea

The idea of constructing a wave wall was discussed in relation to the suggestions by the community for a series of defences, as part of making the Paignton's prom great again. EA confirmed a 3.0m wall would be required and anything lower would not be effective. Richard Kaskow stated that the height related to a straight vertical wall only. No height was indicated for the wave wall – option ... in the first set of options 1 – 9 looked at. Table stated that it would be an option through to 2035 but not after that. Surely, it would be satisfactory option if the correct height selected from outset?

The community can then decide if they want a high wall on/immediately behind the existing sea wall (see sketch detail) from cinema to pier as a minimum or all the way along OR a much improved set back wall as currently proposed by the Council OR possibly a combination of walls as suggested by the community. A proper consultation.

Tim Jones flagged up the creation of a swimming pool being created with a two sea wall option – wave wall with lower set back wall. Richard Kaskow said this depended on how much water overtopped the wave wall and the ability to quickly drain the Eastern Esplanade.

EA said that anything constructed in relation to the existing sea wall would be more complicated and more expensive but supported the idea of further investigation via the Council's consultants. To assist with this Richard Kaskow has drawn up a sketch showing wave wall set back immediately behind the existing one along with stepped capping on top of the existing arrangement. Quite simply, if we can do something with the existing sea wall to improve it, then now is the time to do the work, otherwise it will never get done and will cost millions more in the future.

Action – Torbay Council to agree to us dealing directly with Royal Haskoning HDV, to examine wave wall option 4 to confirm height to 2065 as per the attached sketch or as amended following discussions with this company.

As of January 2022... nothing from Torbay Council

Community Engagement

Torbay Council's engagement officer has previously sent out an email to councillors and community groups asking how the community wishes to be engaged. A deadline for responses was the 28th May. They confirmed that they plan to start process from scratch with a collaborative approach and are looking for ideas etc. We have heard nothing since then.

 

Last Updated: Tuesday 11 January 2022